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	<title>Comments on: Bristol NUJ to target new media</title>
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		<title>By: Donnacha DeLong</title>
		<link>http://www.bristolnuj.org.uk/2009/11/24/bristol-nuj-to-target-new-media/comment-page-1/#comment-23</link>
		<dc:creator>Donnacha DeLong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 00:10:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We recently agreed to allow non-journalistic members of Indymedia collectives to join the union as associate members, so bloggers who earn money in other ways can also join in the same way. Just fill out the form and write associate member across the top (maybe include a cover note explaining). 

Full membership is more difficult due to the 50% rule (to become a full member you need to earn more than 50% of your income from journalism). Those bloggers who qualify are, of course, welcome to join. We need to have a look at this rule, though, so those who don&#039;t meet the requirement are encouraged to join our New Media mailing list - http://mailman.journonet.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/newmedia and voice their opinion and help us figure out how best to resolve the issue. 

@Christina - sounds like a great idea and I&#039;d be happy to come along.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We recently agreed to allow non-journalistic members of Indymedia collectives to join the union as associate members, so bloggers who earn money in other ways can also join in the same way. Just fill out the form and write associate member across the top (maybe include a cover note explaining). </p>
<p>Full membership is more difficult due to the 50% rule (to become a full member you need to earn more than 50% of your income from journalism). Those bloggers who qualify are, of course, welcome to join. We need to have a look at this rule, though, so those who don&#8217;t meet the requirement are encouraged to join our New Media mailing list &#8211; <a href="http://mailman.journonet.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/newmedia" rel="nofollow">http://mailman.journonet.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/newmedia</a> and voice their opinion and help us figure out how best to resolve the issue. </p>
<p>@Christina &#8211; sounds like a great idea and I&#8217;d be happy to come along.</p>
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		<title>By: Anton Vowl</title>
		<link>http://www.bristolnuj.org.uk/2009/11/24/bristol-nuj-to-target-new-media/comment-page-1/#comment-21</link>
		<dc:creator>Anton Vowl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 18:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t help thinking the NUJ should be welcoming the subs from bloggers who want to pay and join the union. I don&#039;t think it dilutes the profession of journalism nor the credibility of the union. The NUJ accepts membership from students, so why not others who aren&#039;t full-time (or even part-time) professionals? 

I agree bloggers aren&#039;t a straight swap for well-resourced journalism but this isn&#039;t an either-or choice that we&#039;re making. Bloggers can add to the debate with articles that are intelligent, researched and insightful - often more so than what you&#039;ll see turning up in the mainstream media. Is that journalism? Yes it is. Does it matter that you don&#039;t get paid for it? I don&#039;t think so. 

There must come a time when you look at the thousands of readers blogs are getting and decide that it can&#039;t be dismissed or viewed as less worthy, simply because these people aren&#039;t being paid a salary by giant corporations. Indeed, I would argue that&#039;s a very good reason for taking them more seriously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t help thinking the NUJ should be welcoming the subs from bloggers who want to pay and join the union. I don&#8217;t think it dilutes the profession of journalism nor the credibility of the union. The NUJ accepts membership from students, so why not others who aren&#8217;t full-time (or even part-time) professionals? </p>
<p>I agree bloggers aren&#8217;t a straight swap for well-resourced journalism but this isn&#8217;t an either-or choice that we&#8217;re making. Bloggers can add to the debate with articles that are intelligent, researched and insightful &#8211; often more so than what you&#8217;ll see turning up in the mainstream media. Is that journalism? Yes it is. Does it matter that you don&#8217;t get paid for it? I don&#8217;t think so. </p>
<p>There must come a time when you look at the thousands of readers blogs are getting and decide that it can&#8217;t be dismissed or viewed as less worthy, simply because these people aren&#8217;t being paid a salary by giant corporations. Indeed, I would argue that&#8217;s a very good reason for taking them more seriously.</p>
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		<title>By: Christina Zaba</title>
		<link>http://www.bristolnuj.org.uk/2009/11/24/bristol-nuj-to-target-new-media/comment-page-1/#comment-20</link>
		<dc:creator>Christina Zaba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 14:10:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, and then there are the aggregating blogs which are influential media organisations as well - eg www.huffingtonpost.com springs to mind. 

I wonder if we should get together with the blogging community in Bristol and have a discussion about this at some point next year? Bristol having been the city where the Web was co-developed in the first place back in circa 1990 (little-known factoid). 

Donnacha warmly invited - we could ask the branch to host and it could be exciting. Fur and feathers might fly but that&#039;s no bad thing and something good could come out of it. 

I expect there are some people from the Univ of West of England - students as well as teachers - who might also be interested. 

Any thoughts? 

nb animated discussion proceeding at Bristol Blogger!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, and then there are the aggregating blogs which are influential media organisations as well &#8211; eg <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.huffingtonpost.com</a> springs to mind. </p>
<p>I wonder if we should get together with the blogging community in Bristol and have a discussion about this at some point next year? Bristol having been the city where the Web was co-developed in the first place back in circa 1990 (little-known factoid). </p>
<p>Donnacha warmly invited &#8211; we could ask the branch to host and it could be exciting. Fur and feathers might fly but that&#8217;s no bad thing and something good could come out of it. </p>
<p>I expect there are some people from the Univ of West of England &#8211; students as well as teachers &#8211; who might also be interested. </p>
<p>Any thoughts? </p>
<p>nb animated discussion proceeding at Bristol Blogger!</p>
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		<title>By: Donnacha DeLong</title>
		<link>http://www.bristolnuj.org.uk/2009/11/24/bristol-nuj-to-target-new-media/comment-page-1/#comment-16</link>
		<dc:creator>Donnacha DeLong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 00:33:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not the best choice of words, bloggers are entitled to join the union if they make more than 50% of their income from journalism. Blogs are just platforms - the content depends on who&#039;s doing it. There are well-resourced journalistic blogs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not the best choice of words, bloggers are entitled to join the union if they make more than 50% of their income from journalism. Blogs are just platforms &#8211; the content depends on who&#8217;s doing it. There are well-resourced journalistic blogs.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.bristolnuj.org.uk/2009/11/24/bristol-nuj-to-target-new-media/comment-page-1/#comment-14</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 22:34:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No disrespect meant to bloggers – just that they&#039;re no substitute for well-resourced journalism.
By the way, my name&#039;s not spelled like that, Bristol Blogger. Why so shy you won&#039;t tell us yours?
Paul Breeden</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No disrespect meant to bloggers – just that they&#8217;re no substitute for well-resourced journalism.<br />
By the way, my name&#8217;s not spelled like that, Bristol Blogger. Why so shy you won&#8217;t tell us yours?<br />
Paul Breeden</p>
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		<title>By: Dinosaur watch &#171; The Bristol Blogger</title>
		<link>http://www.bristolnuj.org.uk/2009/11/24/bristol-nuj-to-target-new-media/comment-page-1/#comment-13</link>
		<dc:creator>Dinosaur watch &#171; The Bristol Blogger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:51:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] That wacky bunch of no-hoper Stalinists, conspiracy nuts and embittered ex-Northcliffe hacks who make up the membership of the local branch of the NUJ (National Union of Journalists) have come up with a recruitment plan. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] That wacky bunch of no-hoper Stalinists, conspiracy nuts and embittered ex-Northcliffe hacks who make up the membership of the local branch of the NUJ (National Union of Journalists) have come up with a recruitment plan. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Christina Zaba</title>
		<link>http://www.bristolnuj.org.uk/2009/11/24/bristol-nuj-to-target-new-media/comment-page-1/#comment-11</link>
		<dc:creator>Christina Zaba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:59:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well you&#039;re one of them Bristol Blogger! using your blog to reach the readers....going to join us then?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well you&#8217;re one of them Bristol Blogger! using your blog to reach the readers&#8230;.going to join us then?</p>
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		<title>By: The Bristol Blogger</title>
		<link>http://www.bristolnuj.org.uk/2009/11/24/bristol-nuj-to-target-new-media/comment-page-1/#comment-8</link>
		<dc:creator>The Bristol Blogger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 12:37:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great plan.

A coalition of rich daddy&#039;s boys who hang around the Watershed with laptops and a bunch embittered ex-Western Daily Press hacks.

The bosses must be quaking in their boots.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great plan.</p>
<p>A coalition of rich daddy&#8217;s boys who hang around the Watershed with laptops and a bunch embittered ex-Western Daily Press hacks.</p>
<p>The bosses must be quaking in their boots.</p>
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		<title>By: Donnacha DeLong</title>
		<link>http://www.bristolnuj.org.uk/2009/11/24/bristol-nuj-to-target-new-media/comment-page-1/#comment-5</link>
		<dc:creator>Donnacha DeLong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 00:44:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s great to see the Branch taking this on board so quickly, I&#039;ll be in touch as soon as we finalise the report. New media recruitment will be one of the main projects I&#039;ll work on as Vice President, so you might well see me in Bristol at some stage next year!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s great to see the Branch taking this on board so quickly, I&#8217;ll be in touch as soon as we finalise the report. New media recruitment will be one of the main projects I&#8217;ll work on as Vice President, so you might well see me in Bristol at some stage next year!</p>
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